Part 2 of why you don't have a robocar yet
Submitted by brad on Tue, 2022-10-04 11:57
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Last week I published part 1 of a 2-part video and text series on the factors standing in the way of you getting a robocar.
Here's part 2 as video:
You can read the text version on Forbes.com at Why Don’t You Have A Self-Driving Car Yet? Part Two Outlines Some Social Problems
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shlomo
Sat, 2022-10-22 09:21
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EV sales will plateau due to affordability
50% Of All American Workers Made Less Than $3,133 A Month Last Year
Anonymous
Tue, 2022-11-01 10:03
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affordable battery-electric cars were still five to six years aw
Speaking at the Automobilwoche Kongress conference in Berlin, the chief executive predicted that affordable battery-electric cars were still five to six years away.
social unrest would ensue if combustion engine cars were banned before affordable electric vehicles were available.
brad
Tue, 2022-11-01 10:51
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Affordable
See my more recent post. Yes, EVs have a higher sticker price. But their total cost of ownership is already completely competitive, but many people can't get their brain to think about TCO.
Anonymous
Wed, 2022-11-02 11:06
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Cost
McKinsey: TCO of BEV in 2025 can exceed ICE over 3 years. AUGUST 2022 report
61 cents per km vs 58 cents per km
McKinsey Center For Future Mobility
McKinsey Mobility Insight of the Week
brad
Wed, 2022-11-02 11:32
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Over 3 years
Certainly it could over 3 years. It's a lifetime TCO. If you are going to get a 3 year lease, the EV will cost more today unless you drive it vast amount.
Anonymous
Sun, 2022-11-06 19:23
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EV sales
Morgan Stanley considers EV affordability a problem. EV adoption slows, maybe plateaus.
Anonymous
Thu, 2022-11-10 08:43
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Level 3 by 2030
Research report from GoldmanSachs
projects that cars with Level 3 and above automation will account for only 15% of sales in 2030.
Anonymous
Fri, 2022-11-11 08:10
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EV price average was $61,251 says Edmunds
average sticker price for EVs that were actually made and shipped to dealerships, however, was $61,251, almost one-third higher, according to Edmunds.
www dot bloomberg dot com/news/articles/2022-09-17/the-affordable-electric-car-is-still-mostly-fantasy?
www dot theverge dot com/2022/11/9/23449741/kia-ev6-price-increase-electric-vehicle-ev-affordable
www dot torquenews dot com/1083/affordable-ev-models-see-continued-delivery-declines/amp
Anonymous
Fri, 2022-11-11 08:19
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Average yearly income of buyer was over $100,000
Average yearly income of buyer was over $100,000.
EV sales will plateau much sooner than forecast.
Anonymous
Sat, 2022-11-12 10:34
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KBB: avg EV in June was $23,000-$27,000 more than
average transaction price vehicles.
ATP of electric vehicles in June was $66,997.
ATP of non-luxury vehicle in June was $43,952.
ATP of Hybrid/alternative energy vehicle in June was $39,040.
TCO of pure EVs is non-existent over 10 year period at prices in 2022.
mediaroom dot kbb dot com/2022-07-12-New-Vehicle-Prices-Set-a-Record-in-June,-According-to-Kelley-Blue-Book,-as-Luxury-Share-Hits-New-High
Anonymous
Sat, 2022-11-12 10:50
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Hyundai, Toyota, VW ATPs from KBB
Hyundai ATP $35,768
Toyota. ATP $37,620
Volkswagen ATP $38,497
EV sales will plateau.
Anonymous
Tue, 2022-11-15 21:37
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Israel to Trial Self-driving bus Pilot Program
www dot timesofisrael dot com/israel-to-test-self-driving-public-bus-systems-in-two-year-national-pilot/
Anonymous
Wed, 2022-11-16 08:41
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robotaxi in tel aviv
more dream
just like robotaxi dream in tel aviv
no robotaxi in tel aviv and 2022 almost over
Anonymous
Fri, 2022-12-09 15:11
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In Europe, fixed-route AVs will lead.
In Europe, fixed-route AVs will lead.
November 22, 2022 Egil Juliussen
www eetimes eu/autonomous-vehicles-how-is-europe-doing/
brad
Fri, 2022-12-09 16:13
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Fixed Route
Fixed route is a reasonable baby-step, but it's not much of a goal. Fixed route duplicates what humans do, but saves some cost of a driver (but runs into other problems, like no driver on board to keep passengers behaved, or clean, etc.) Transit drivers are a large expense of transit agencies (because often they get vehicles with grants) but generally, the larger the vehicle, the lower cost of the driver per passenger, and so the lesser gain for doing this.
Self-driving isn't about simply saving money. It's about enabling new things that were not possible before. Saving money can do that - ie. you can now have a shuttle that runs all day and twice as often when you could not afford the drivers -- but that's a simple start of what the real change is.
Note, please change your name from Anonymous, and also it's annoying to mangle the URLs. I realize anti-spam filters may discourage URLs and that's a hard problem to solve. Those who ask for a pseudonym account can get access to better ability to insert formatting and URLs.
richter7
Fri, 2022-12-09 16:34
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some hype, some valid points
thenextweb com/news/this-is-the-status-of-robotaxi-and-roboshuttles-in-europe
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